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Document and Film Discussion Thread

Use this Tackk to record your participation in answering primary document guiding questions and your analysis of the film as it plays.

Expectations: Connections between film and primary documents are particularly welcome. As the last time, there is a graded participation assignment for contributions to this discussion thread. Use texts, offer specific scenes, ask great questions, respond directly to one another using @____.

To organize our primary document references use the following tags:

#banzhao #kangyouwei #chenduxiu #hezhen #hanyi

To organize our film references, use a tag for each of the characters names:

#songlian #1mistress #2mistress #3mistress #yaner #master

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Guiding questions - reading night #1

1. Ban Zhao's work from nearly 1800 years the early 20th century before still defined traditional Confucian women's roles.

How would a Communist analyze or explain the document?

As the film plays, document examples of women trying to meet or undermine Confucian expectations. Also, how does the document apply or not apply to women with servants?

2. Kang Youwei: Why does Kang attack the traditional family? Using our definition from today, how would a Communist agree or disagree with Kang's diagnosis of the world's suffering?

Guiding Questions - reading night #3

Chen Duxiu: "The Way of Confucius and Modern Life"

1. As a communist, why does he attack Confucian values, particularly the treatment of women? Use a specific example. What would he attack in the film so far?

2. He ends by stating that "Confucius lived in a feudal age... the ethics [are] of the feudal age." How does that paragraph reflect Chen's "economic determinism"?

He Zhen: "Women's Revenge" and Han Yi: Destroy the Family

1. How is "Confucianism... a murderous learning"? Give an example from the text. What would she attack in the film so far?

2. How does she personally attack Ban Zhao?

3. Would communists agree with Han Yi that China should start with a sexual revolution in order to destroy the family? Why does he believe so?

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2 years ago
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Songalin is horrified that she told the second sister about the affair, because despite the hatred in the begining she had grown to like the third sister and now that she is the cause of her death Songalin is going to decile even faster

2 years ago
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Perhaps this is all the fourth mistress's plan for vengeance. Although it is still too early to tell.

2 years ago
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I think this is a clear example of how confucianism in represented in #hezhen's primary document. He mentions how confucianism is "a murderous learning." This is so true, because the mistresses plan for the deaths of the others. Even Songlian is responsible for two deaths, as she just simply wanted the attention of the master. If men treated women better, these deaths wouldn't happen. Nor do people have to cheat on their husbands. Its so ironic because confucianism is about being good to your family, but so far, it has only caused the deaths of people in that family.

2 years ago
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Its also terrible that they view the third mistress as so worthless, they wont even give her a proper funeral. It can be inferred that 3rd mistress will be left in there indefinitely because of the skeletons Songlian saw at the beginning of the movie.

2 years ago
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I agree Enton. It's very interesting how the competition to serve the master only leads to death and punishment, very similarly to what He Zhen wrote.

2 years ago
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I wonder if it is the record player or if it is actually her ghost.

2 years ago
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On the bottom of some doorways there is a 10cm or so "fence" I believe that this is to stop ghosts from entering doorways.

2 years ago
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Yeah. With the characters on it.

2 years ago
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Clay: "circle plot"

2 years ago
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Gilden wouldn't approve of you "quotes", Clay.